Jul 07, 2025 Mike J Midgley

From Duct Tape to Human-First: Automating GTM for Scalable Growth | Elio Narciso | S4:E11

In Season 4, Episode 11 of Force and Friction, we’re joined by Elio Narciso, a tech founder, GTM leader, and operating partner who’s helped scale automation platforms across the globe.

Elio’s philosophy is clear: GTM needs to evolve from
duct-taped tools and chaotic handoffs to human-first, intelligent automation that aligns with how people buy—and how teams actually work.


In this episode, he shares how he helps startups transition from messy growth to scalable infrastructure, where automation supports, not replaces human relationships.

Elio Narciso

Elio Narciso is a seasoned entrepreneur and GTM strategist, With a mission to remove the friction that slows down GTM teams, Elio has spent his career bridging the gap between data, systems, and customer impact.

Before founding Scalestack, he led the AWS Global Startup Program, supporting over 600 startups like Notion and Webflow.

A three-time founder with two successful exits totaling $80M, Elio’s experience spans mobile, SaaS, and enterprise platforms across the US and Europe.

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Here are the core areas we discuss in today's episode:

GTM as a System: Moving Beyond the Duct Tape Era

Elio opens the conversation by describing the common GTM setup in early-stage startups: a patchwork of tools, disconnected workflows, and reactive processes.

“A lot of GTM still looks like a duct-taped stack. It works until it breaks, but it always breaks.”

He emphasizes the importance of thinking about GTM as a repeatable system, not just a series of tactics. Automation, he says, must support the flow of decisions, not just trigger emails or route leads.

Human-First Doesn’t Mean Human-Only

While automation is key to scale, Elio is adamant that the best systems enhance the human element, rather than replace it.

“You automate the repeatable, but you empower the personal. That’s the balance.”

He explains how the most effective GTM engines combine automation for volume and human-led moments for trust-building, especially in PLG and mid-market sales environments.

Why RevOps Is the Glue Between Strategy and Execution

Elio gives a clear role for RevOps in a scaling business: to architect how strategy flows into frontline action. Without this, GTM motions get lost between teams, tools, and dashboards.

“RevOps is not just reporting. It’s the translation layer between your vision and your execution.”

He walks through examples of how RevOps can make or break early-stage growth, and why aligning it early is essential to prevent later chaos.

The Danger of Over-Automation Without Intent

One of the more cautionary moments in the episode is Elio’s take on automation overload. He describes how teams get stuck automating for automation’s sake, without tying it to outcomes.

“I’ve seen teams automate themselves into irrelevance. Just because it can be automated doesn’t mean it should.”

Elio calls for intentional design, where each step in the GTM flow is there to create clarity, speed, or trust.

Building an Operating System for GTM

Elio introduces the idea of a GTM operating system - a consistent, feedback-driven structure that connects strategy, execution, and measurement.

“You can’t scale chaos. You need a GTM OS that everyone understands, even if they’re new.”

He outlines how startups can gradually implement this system without losing agility, using automation as an enabler, not a crutch.

Final Thoughts:

Elio Narciso reminds us that GTM is no longer a wild experiment. In today’s market, it needs to be intentional, repeatable, and human-first.

Whether you’re using AI agents or Zapier workflows, the goal is the same: build systems that scale trust, not just tasks.

For founders, RevOps leaders, and GTM teams ready to evolve, this episode is a practical guide to engineering growth with clarity, not chaos.


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Published by Mike J Midgley July 7, 2025
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